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Greetings from Los Angeles. In tonight’s email, news and notes on the Disney succession chatter emanating from Toscana and the Rotunda, where Bob Iger’s chair is widely seen as Dana Walden’s to lose.
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Greetings from Los Angeles. In tonight’s email, news and notes on the Disney succession chatter emanating from Toscana and the Rotunda, where Bob Iger’s chair is widely seen as Dana Walden’s to lose.

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On Walden’s Shores
On Walden’s Shores
News, notes, and the latest inside conversation among the Toscana crowd about Dana Walden’s odds of succeeding Bob Iger.
DYLAN BYERS DYLAN BYERS
On Thursday night, while her friend Kamala Harris was accepting the Democratic nomination for president in Chicago, Dana Walden was on the Paramount lot in Hollywood for the season premiere of Hulu’s Only Murders in the Building. Had Harris’s historic ascension happened in any previous cycle, the Disney Entertainment co-chair would very likely have been at the United Center with her husband Matt and other Hollywood bigwigs—Jeff Shell, Donna Langley, Bela Bajaria, Bryan Lourd—who were on hand to witness the speech and take part in the festivities (“an amazing experience,” per one such bigwig). Harris has described Dana and Matt as “extraordinary friends,” partially responsible for her marriage to Doug Emhoff, and the Waldens have donated to her campaigns for decades.

Alas, some strategic considerations probably prevented Walden from making the trip. ABC News, which she oversees, is hosting a presidential debate next month, and Walden’s ties to Harris have already come under heavy-handed scrutiny from Donald Trump and The New York Times. As notably, Walden is seen by most Disney and industry insiders as the leading candidate to take over the entertainment giant when Bob Iger steps down in 2026. Obviously, the optics would have hurt both the company and its news division, as well as her own ambitions—a brand withdrawal for all involved, in Igerian parlance.

Succession at Disney is an evergreen preoccupation in Hollywood and on Wall Street, but recent developments have brought the issue back to the fore. On Wednesday, Disney’s board officially tapped director James Gorman to oversee the succession plan, kicking off the formal aspects of the process. (Gorman, of course, ran an almost effortlessly smooth process to replace himself as C.E.O. at Morgan Stanley.) Meanwhile, Iger gave an interview to Kelly Ripa in which he confessed to being “obsessed” with finding his replacement. Thus, Hollywood’s favorite parlor game recommenced, from Toscana to the Rotunda.

Officially, all four of Iger’s chairpersons—Walden, her fellow entertainment co-chair Alan Bergman, ESPN chair Jimmy Pitaro, and Parks chief Josh D’Amaro—are under consideration for the job and will go through the requisite preparation and diligence, including formal mentorship from Iger. In truth, however, only Walden and D’Amaro are broadly seen as leading candidates for the position. Pitaro is still a dark horse, given his experience across Disney’s businesses—media, digital, consumer products—and strong support on the board. But Disney may also one day spin off ESPN (it’s already breaking out financials for the business) and Iger presumably wants to preserve his optionality and keep a great leader in a crucial seat. Bergman, who is fundamentally a finance guy, is seen as very unlikely to get the position.

Increasingly, the conventional wisdom among the creative community in-crowd is that Walden is Iger’s preferred candidate, especially given her formidable skills as a television executive, her deep ties to the creative community, and her recent leadership of Disney’s streaming operation. And, yes, they are also both moored in the Brentwood set: After all, it was Walden who came up with the ruse of a walk-and-talk with Iger so that Disney board chair Susan Arnold could reach him and offer him back his old job. Her office in Burbank has a side door that connects to Iger’s suite.

Her champions and acolytes are the very creators, producers, and agents who are so integral to Disney’s core entertainment business, many of whom she has cultivated and empowered—and whose weighted opinion helped drive Bob Chapek down the Matterhorn. Beyond Hollywood, however, there are many who question whether Walden has the financial experience to manage the myriad complexities of the rest of the business, especially at a time of massive disruption and competition. Sure, some of this may be gendered nonsense masquerading as corporate-speak—both Iger and Michael Eisner came from the creative side of the business… and look what happened to the M.B.A. candidate, Chapek. But it’s worth noting, too, that Disney’s peers, like NBCU and WBD (for better or worse), and soon Paramount, are run by traditional media operators. Reed Hastings appointed Greg Peters as Netflix’s co-C.E.O. upon his ascent upstairs, presumably to placate Wall Street analysts and institutional investors while his partner Ted Sarandos oversaw the content business and strategy.

The Happiest Place
Disney may be a Hollywood company, but the job isn’t just a Hollywood job anymore. It’s about content and creatives, yes, but also a whole host of other responsibilities: capital allocation to drive organic growth; M&A to shed assets and/or acquire assets; technological innovation; diplomacy with China over expansion, as well as the unions in Anaheim and Orlando over wages and health care deductibles. The list goes on and on. “In my circles, everyone is resigned to Dana getting the job,” one Disney veteran said. “No one disputes her TV bona fides or her style and polish, but no one believes she is capable of running a 225,000-person global business with such a complex set of strategic problems.”

Is that fair? Obviously, none of the four aforementioned candidates have Iger’s holistic and comprehensive understanding of the business—and can’t without actually serving as C.E.O. D’Amaro may have a far better grasp on dynamic pricing at the theme parks, for instance, but his acumen in Hollywood and his ties to creatives may be as limited as those of his predecessor, Chapek, who failed spectacularly in the position. Meanwhile, many of Walden’s defenders see some sexism at play here, and like to point out that Iger himself was seen as an empty suit before his own ascension—a handsome but boring guy without Eisner’s vision and dynamism. He went on to become one of the most revered and well-regarded C.E.O.s in Hollywood history.

The Iger precedent is a little more nuanced, of course: Iger spent five years as chief operating officer before he became C.E.O., so his range of experience was never in question. Then again, that might hint at the true source of anxiety among the Walden skeptics: not that they think she isn’t ultimately capable of the top job, but that the succession process itself might rush her into a position before she’s had similar experience across the company. “Many see Bob falling for Dana the way he fell for Chapek,” the Disney veteran said, “seeing what he wants to see—not tolerating dissent or criticism—and not actively looking for feedback.”

But Iger’s retirement date is less than two years away. Given the time constraints, as well as the new demands of the job, the best path forward may end up being through a co-C.E.O. structure, not dissimilar to what Hastings set up for Sarandos and Peters at Netflix. Or perhaps Walden could appoint someone to assist with the business, much as Eisner tapped Frank Wells, or, for that matter, Walden herself worked with Gary Newman at Fox.

In some ways, there are parallels between Walden’s own rise and that of her friend Kamala—and this, too, is ultimately a story about tribes and party politics. The creative class is ready to anoint Walden now, while others don’t understand her ascension at all. It’s a lot for the Toscana crowd to chew on. Then again, as one Disney insider reminded me this week, the board’s vote is the only one that counts, and they don’t really care what the Toscana crowd thinks.

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